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Husband: | Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER (1876-1949) | |
Wife: | Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY (1875-1948) | |
Children: | Thomas PALMER (1896-1896) | |
Thomas Ernest PALMER (1897- ) | ||
Julia Margaret (Marie) PALMER (1899-1930) | ||
Matthew C PALMER (1901- ) | ||
William (Billy) PALMER (1903- ) | ||
Robert 'Barney' PALMER (1905-2007) | ||
Status: | Separated | |
Marriage | 15 Mar 1896 | Holy Trinity Parish Church |
Barking Road, Essex |
Name: | Thomas (Pedlar) PALMER | |
Sex: | Male | |
Father: | Robert Thomas PALMER (1847-1903) | |
Mother: | Elizabeth MAYERS (1846-1890) | |
Birth | 25 Sep 1876 | Canning Towm, West Ham, Essex |
5 Forty Acre Lane Plaistow | ||
Death | 13 Feb 1949 (age 72) | Brighton |
General Hospital | ||
Burial | Bear Road Cem. Brighton | |
Occupation | Pugilist/Boxer |
Name: | Margaret 'Minetta' MCKAY | |
Sex: | Female | |
Father: | Peter Edwin MCKAY (1833- ) | |
Mother: | Julia Annette CARRONE (1833- ) | |
Birth | 4 May 1875 | St George-in-the East London |
Death | Jan 1948 (age 72) | St Joseph's Hospice, Hackney London |
Occupation | Blouse machinist | |
Burial | Tower Hamlets Cemetery, Bow |
Name: | Thomas PALMER | |
Sex: | Male | |
Birth | 11 Nov 1896 | |
Death | 12 Nov 1896 (age 0) |
Name: | Thomas Ernest PALMER | |
Sex: | Male | |
Birth | 18 Nov 1897 | Canning Town London |
213 Barking Road |
Name: | Julia Margaret (Marie) PALMER | |
Sex: | Female | |
Birth | 1899 | Jun Qtr Mile End Old Town London |
Death | 20 May 1930 (age 31) | Stepney, London |
Cause: Cancer |
Name: | Matthew C PALMER | |
Sex: | Male | |
Spouse: | Mary KELLY ( - ) | |
Birth | 1901 | Mile End, London |
Lincoln Street, Bow Acording to 1911 census |
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Occupation | Boxer |
Name: | William (Billy) PALMER | |
Sex: | Male | |
Spouse: | ANO ( - ) | |
Birth | 1903 | Mile End London |
Name: | Robert 'Barney' PALMER | |
Sex: | Male | |
Birth | Jun 1905 | Mile End London |
Death | 2007 (age 101-102) | London |
1901 census family living at 59 Lincoln Street (now Brokesley Street), London.
Some records incorrectly show birth date as 19th November 1876. World Batamweight Boxing Champion 1895 to 1899. Known as 'The Box of Tricks'.
On 8th Nov 1893 'Pedlar' Palmer had a 3 round Benefit exhibition fight with William Pike at the Custom Kouse Victoria B.C.Freemasons Road in aid of his father Robert Palmer.
He owed a Tobacco shop in 213 Barking Road, Plaistow run by his brother Matthew. In 1906 after leaving his first wife he lived with Rebecca Hall. Spent 1 month in prison at Xmas 1906 for assault. Address given as 33 Shandy Street Mile End. He killed Robert Choat on a train returning from Epsom races on 22 April 1907. Choat died from a fatal blow to a neck artery following a argument with Palmer. After 3 months in custody Palmer was found guilty of Manslaughter at Guildford Assises on 15th July 1907 and given five years penal servitude. Released from Portland Prison on 29th April 1911 on licence. Father of Robert Thomas born 1914 and claimed to be father of Timothy born 1907.
1881 census living with family at 13 Kensington Terrace, Sanderstead Road, Croydon. 1891 with mother and nephnew William at 62/63 Labourers Dwellings, Elias David Place, Croydon. Address at marriage 93 Whitwall Road Barking. July 1906 gained Separation Order from Thomas PALMER at Old Street Magistate. 1911 census shown living at 53 Tait Street, St George in the East, London with all children except Matthew. This at the time husband was in prison from 1907 until 1911. Also shown Lodging is John O.Brien (shown as Bryan) age 30 with description as 'Head' scrawled through. Father of Bridget and John Palmer and four other children, the last born in 1916.
Margaret ran a Fish stall in Watney Street Market.
1911 census liviing with Grand parents Peter and Julia McKay at 18 Priory Road, Croydon.